Madden NFL 10 full Rookie Ratings File

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• EA_DonnyMoore said April 26, 2009

  Let me first say, that all rookies who were drafted will be created.  So no need to do some big list of guys that were drafted and are not on this list.

  I am well aware.

  Thanks guys and enjoy all the numbers!

  Donny

• All-Madden4125 said April 26, 2009

  It would be great to see some of the overall ratings of some NFL players that have already been in the NFL for a while to compare it to the rookies to really understand the ratings.

• HurricaneT said April 26, 2009

  your must have been made the rating before the senior bowl and scouting combine because patt white is rated to low and his  throw accuracy and power should be higher then nate davis and josh freeman and the qb he should be rated with matthew and mark because they said pat white threw the best in the combine

• QUiiCkN3zZ said April 26, 2009

  One question in the stats why is mathew stafford speed rating higher than mark sanchez wow that false mark is more mobile in the pocket fix this plz

• FUDGE 101 said April 26, 2009

  Hey guys great work, we couldn't be anymore appreciative of all of the hard work put into these ratings and players we know that its long, tedious, and at times unnoticed.

  I wont directly refer to him as a draft pick, but did you guys release ratings on Cameron Wake? He is the DE/OLB from the CFL signed by the Dolphins. I was curious how his amazing CFL stats transfer over into madden statistics.  If you get a chance to post that up it would be awesome! I don't have a twitter account or so I figured I would post here!

• QUiiCkN3zZ said April 26, 2009

  hurricane ur going too far with that josh freeman should absolutly have the best arm in the draft and pat white is not all that accurate hurricane ur crazy man maybe a little boost to pat's ratings but ur talkin crazy bro

• Nightfalconn said April 26, 2009

  DERRICK WILLIAMS-- IS THIS A JOKE 89 SPEED HE RAN A 4:39 AT HIS PRO DAY

• jellybean3454 said April 26, 2009

  please create graham harrell even though he didnt get drafted, because i know you said every rookie who was drafted will be created

• All-Madden4125 said April 26, 2009

  I agree with hurricane t. Pat White did throw the best in the combine. Also mike wallace is much faster than a 93 more like a 97-98. His 40 yard dash time is the second fastest speed in the draft.

• QUiiCkN3zZ said April 26, 2009

  D-Will is fast yo i watched him play in High School i think his speed should be like in the 92-94 range not 89

• FUDGE 101 said April 26, 2009

  You guys have to remember there is only a select few of EA guys working to hammer out ALL of the numbers for each player drafted and try their best to get them hammered out. I think the speed to which they got all of this information out is not only nice but completely generous as we have usually had to wait til the game is in our hands to try out the rookies.

• QUiiCkN3zZ said April 26, 2009

  Yo in Madden 10 i guarentee that the vikings will be the next powerhouse team with All Day AP and Percy Mercy Harvin with that ridiculious speed at 97 and a agility rating of 99

• peppers9049 said April 26, 2009

  wow the rating system is way different, i created the fullback the panthers drafted in madden 09 using his stats from madden 10 and he turned out to be a 82 while in the rookie rankings for madden 10 he is only a 70

• QUiiCkN3zZ said April 26, 2009

  jelly, graham harrell is in the stat file already

• QUiiCkN3zZ said April 26, 2009

  i know pat white threw the best at the combine but hurricane said that his throw power should be higher than Josh Freeman what is a ridiculous statement because Josh should have the most throw power in the draft hands down

• jellybean3454 said April 26, 2009

  yea i just seen but thanks though

• EA_DonnyMoore said April 26, 2009

  peppers9049 - exactly right.  This is all part of the new rating system for Madden 10.

• jellybean3454 said April 26, 2009

  i dont know why we are crying about this and that we havent even playedd madden 10 yet, pat white's 86 speed might be fast on madden 10 because remember they said speed is a factor now, pat white's 86 speed might be just as fast as 90 speed compared to the way madden 09 made their players,and if the madden dev team was telling the truth about speed is a big factor than 86 on madden 10 will be knida fast, now just imagine using percy harvin his going to be freaking fast

  so bascially we dont know how fast pat white is goiing to run in madden 10 but i know if speed is a big factor on madden 10 expect pat white to be smoking a couple of guys trying to tackle him

• BlakeJ_92 said April 26, 2009

  How do you look at the ratings? I downloaded the file and everything but I don't know what to do from there.

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 26, 2009

  Can we get realistic and for once stop low balling the Steelers.  Last year it was Troy Polamalu with an awareness rating 70-75% lower than Tyrone Carter I might add, and this year the person with the second fastest time at the combine 4.28-4.30 Mike Wallace from Ole Miss gets his sneakers taken by some rating theives. Can we please get some consistency and let the no names keep what little they got.

• dHeSi_25 said April 26, 2009

  Pat White's Speed Rating is fine but his accuracy is much better than what you guys rate him

  GO WATCH THE COMBINE

  This guy out threw everyone there(including Sanchez) and if it stays the way it is right now your saying guys like Tom Brandstarter are better QB's than Pat White

  Even the statistics don't lie Pat White threw almost as many touchdown's and less int's as Mattew Stafford in less attempts

  THE GUY CAN THROW THE FOOTBALL

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 26, 2009

  I agree with All-Madden4125, Mike Wallace is a "Speed Demon".  He should be a 98 or 99. Will Madden 10 show the Steelers any love this year.  Number "43" awareness needs bumped, number "7" awareness needs bumped and can we please stop having these RB's run all over Steelers "D", we all know that just doesn't happen.

• swillz13 said April 26, 2009

  i made my own overall ratings for some of the players.

  Qb: matt stafford:83

   mark sanchez:81

    josh freeman:79

    pat white:77

  Rb: knowshon moreno:84

    chris wells:82

   lesean mccoy:79

   donald brown:78-79

  Wr: michael crabtree:86

    jeremy maclin: 83

   percy harvin: 80

   darius heyward bey: 79

  well thats all that i made now but what do u guys think??

• joeyvowels@gmail.com said April 26, 2009

  Will these rating change before the game is released? Some of them definately need to be tweaked.

• swillz13 said April 26, 2009

  also pat white's and everyones speed needs to stay the same as it was in collage because i forget who said it earlier but u don't really lose speed from collage to pros so pat white should be 92

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 26, 2009

  jellybean3454 you might have a point but fast is fast and quick is sick.  The only thing that will matter come Aug 14 will be the speed of the team that your running with and it gets old with teams getting artifically made better by un-warranted rating bumps.  What ever happened to "If it's in the game,it's in the game"?

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 26, 2009

  dHeSi_25, your preaching to the choir.  See my posts.  All this would be corrected if we stick with the stats. EA_DonnyMoore may I ask you why we don't stick with the facts on the stats?

• joeyvowels@gmail.com said April 26, 2009

  Knowshon Moreno ran a 4.62 40 - 86 SPD

  Donald Brown ran a 4.51 40 - 88 SPD

  Chris Wells ran a 4.59 40 - 89 SPD

  Shonn Green ran a 4.65 40 - 82 SPD

  Glenn Coffee ran a 4.58 40 - 87 SPD

  Darrius Hayward-Bay ran a 4.30 40 - 97 SPD

  Percy Harvin ran a 4.41 40 - 97 SPD

  Jeremy Maclin ran a 4.48 40 - 96 SPD

  Hakeen Nicks ran a 4.63 40 - 88 SPD

  How do these rating make any sense? Are these rating the way they are because you guys tweaked the rating system?

  What rating is considered average now?

• joeyvowels@gmail.com said April 26, 2009

  I forgot to mention:

  Brian Orapko ran a 4.70 40 - 83 SPD

  Aaron Maybin ran a 4.89 40 - 84 SPD

  Aaron Curry ran a 4.56 40 - 86 SPD

  I could honestly go on and on about these speed ratinags. I would really love to know how you guys chose the ratings.

• tealcurtain28 said April 26, 2009

  **MISSING PLAYERS**

  Terrance Knighton DT, Temple 6'3" 321 lbs. (Jaguars: 3rd round pick)

  Derek Cox CB, William & Mary 6'1" 180 lbs. (Jaguars: 3rd round pick)

• tealcurtain28 said April 26, 2009

  **MISSING PLAYERS**

  Zach Miller TE, Nebraska-Omaha 6'4" 233 lbs. (Jaguars: 6th round)

• tealcurtain28 said April 26, 2009

  Sorry, just noticed you comment about all rookies being created.

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 26, 2009

  Hey Buddah add Mike Wallace 4.30 - 93 SPD to your list

• YungDre636 said April 26, 2009

  49er in the building. To all of the ppl above, players' speeds are not dependent on their 40 times alone. Maclin is a pretty fast dude but hyperextended his knee at the combine so he ran a slower time. You have to watch tape on these players to determine how fast they are cuz 40 times and football speed are completely different, but according to Al Davis it's all the samething (thanks Al for Crabtree)... I Like Crabtree's ratings but on the pic you have the 49ers' new facemask as red, when it's really grey (plz fix)... And also I know you guys are still tuning up the graphics but Crabtree looks more like Anquan Boldin in that picture. Michael has a thinner mustache (don't think Imma freakin' weird for saying that). You guys are doing a great job and keep it up. This is the 9ers and now we have a viral offensive attack (VD and Crabs)

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 26, 2009

  Can anyone tell me how Aaron Curry will have a higher hit stick than anyone on the game?  Are you serious, seriously.  Does Madden need to create artificial hype for players?

• olemissrebels39 said April 26, 2009

  mike wallace is not a damn 57 ovr. 84th pick overall he should be more like 68

• olemissrebels39 said April 26, 2009

  mike wallace is wayyy better than 57 ovr

• warrior310 said April 26, 2009

  dont mind it but the overall team ratings are a extravaganza and for franchise mode there should be a team togetherness rating,that way if your the colts and its low they will play bad but if your the lions and its high they should have a better chance of competing .

                        make the draft more important and

                                  realistic

  all the players should be taken according to the team's needs  and have some late round players that stick around and progress to become a starter with your franchise.

  if a team feels that any of their positions is getting old let them draft players for future reasons.

                                 franchise mode

  let the older players be role models for the younger ones and have a knowledge rating  to show the progress

  thats it for now but i have more ideas coming later.

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 26, 2009

  olemissrebels39, I totally missed mike wallace's overall rating.  Can we get a flag on the play EA?  C'mon, C'MON- DREW BREES

• dwademvp3 said April 26, 2009

  I looked at the trailer and I was wondering how are you going to do that running back breaks off two tacklers so smoothly like in the trailer LOOKS REALLY GOOD

• joeyvowels@gmail.com said April 26, 2009

  Your right Mike Wallace ran a 4.33 40 - 93 SPD

• MegaBearsFan said April 26, 2009

  What happened to the weapons system in 2009?  Specifically, the "Smart" weapon rating?  I have a linebacker with a 99 "smart weapon" rating, and in 2 whole seasons of Franchise, he has NEVER (not even once) read the offenses plays.  I play 10 or 12 minute quarters for my franchise games.  I remember last year, even with a 95 rating, I would be able to read the AI's plays at least once or twice a game playing just 5 or 7 minute quarters.  What happened?

  The "Smart" weapon should be a much more powerful aspect of the game.  Here's a couple ideas I have for making smart players more useful:

  1.) keep track of a user's most popular/successful play selections (for users) and have each AI coach/team be given a set of most commonly run plays.  In the week before a game, you can view what these plays are (and by viewing a human opponent's profile card).  There can be between 3 and 5 plays on offense and defense each.  "Smart" weapons should be able to instantly recognize when an AI or human opponents gives the same look as one of these top 3 or 5 plays and have a significantly higher chance of showing the play-art before the play, and will react to the play more quickly once the ball is snapped.

  2.) After the ball is snapped, a smart player should be able to read the opponent's play and "call out" what it is to the rest of the team so that the whole team gains a slight awareness bonus for plays that an opponent runs frequently.

  3.)  A "Smart" D-lineman (or blitzing linebacker) should be better able to jump the snap (if EA brings back the jump the snap feature).  Also, if you have a lineman with high awareness (i.e. the "smart D-Lineman" weapon), you could put an icon beneath the player that will have a chance of flashing just before the opponent snaps the ball, giving the user the opportunity to press the jump the snap button on time.  In addition, a "Smart" D-Lineman should be able to keep track of how often the opponent uses hard counts, and be able to jump the snap if the opponent keeps using the same number of hard counts.  I also think it would be cool if a user has the option set the snap-count in the huddle.  Doing so would make your offensive linemen less likely to jump offsides if you actually snap the ball on the correct count (and if you snap it early, your offense may be slow getting off the ball because they weren't expecting it).  This would at least give the user more control over how often false-starts occur, since they're a little too random for my tastes.

  4.) "Smart" O-Linemen should have significantly reduced penalties and false starts (especially if the above snap-count feature is implemented), and can read blitzes before the play.

  Of course, I'm sure its too late for any new stuff to be added to this year's game, but I'm hoping they retuned the weapon system, and maybe in next year's game, I'll see some of the aforementioned improvements.

• Azcardinal32 said April 26, 2009

  Even tho he didnt get drafted can you still make P.J. Hill Please?  And I love Beckum getting some respect, i'm likin it.  P.S. if you couldnt tell I'm a Badger Fan lol

• livinadream said April 26, 2009

  Honestly guys, the combine numbers are NOT the only things that should determine the player ratings!  People are so worried about players speed, because they don't have to actually use football stragety.  Just run streaks and out run everyone with speed.

  If speed was that important the Raiders would have been superbowl contenders year in and out.  They have drafted guys who ran top 40 yard dashes every year.

  There is clock times ran in shorts and then there is the on the field football speed.  What's really more important??  Jerry Rice looked pretty fast on the field despite slow clock times.

  Andre Smith is really high in the strength rating.  Yet, at his personal workout he only benched pressed 225 lbs. around 20 times.  I don't see anyone worried about that!?  

  Real football fans know the game is won and lost at the line of scrimmage.

• jellybean3454 said April 26, 2009

  have anyone heard the sane when you go to the nfl you dont get any slower the league just gets faster, so bascially what that means is when college players go to the nfl they arent slow its just that them other nfl players are just more faster and in more shape think about it you have a guy who is used to playing only like 10 or 13 games a year playing against guys who play 16 games a year and work out way more than college players

  so honestly i kinda got mad they made pat white speed 86 but when i think about it; its just that he isnt going to be a 92 speeder in the nfl because them nfl guys are going to make him seem slower, but its not that he is getting slower its just that the league is getting faster to him

• IceInTheseVeins said April 26, 2009

  You said before that all it's you're goal to make every player look like they do in real life, if that's the case, you guys need to add Harvin and Freeman's facemasks, Polamalu/Tebow's facemask, and I don't mean to nit-pick because I'm not a Colt's fan but Donald Brown is very clean shaven and in your pick of him he has a very thick mustache. Other than those things, the pictures look crisp.

• TheGladiator82 said April 26, 2009

  well if your going to go by football speed mark sanchez and matt staffords speeds are definitely wrong.  Sanchez is fast in the pocket as well as when he is forced out of the pocket or rolling out.  Just something that needs to be corrected in my opinion.

• beware_of_dware9 said April 26, 2009

  Can someone tell me what the blog is going to be about tomorrow???

• broncomad59 said April 26, 2009

  Hey I looked over the screenshots and yea they did look nice, but I noticed a couple of things that really stuck out to me. First, again I am obviously a Broncos fan and was dissapointed when the home uniforms only had blue pants last year. After looking at the screenshots of the Moreno and Ayers I noticed THEY HAD THE WRONG PANTS to match with the home jerseys, AGAIN...Orange stripe at home not blue!

  Alose I did notice that the shoulder pads on almost every player were again abnormally huge.

  Look at this picture of Tyson Jackson with LSU:

  www.footballsfuture.com/.../tyson_jackson_300_250.jpg

  Now look at the picture you guys made of him:

  sports.espn.go.com/.../gallery

  Now maybe in the late 80's when players just wanted to look macho this would be okay, but in todays football the pads have all been slimmed down so players can make faster, more agile movements.

  And one more thing, maybe somemore facemask choices????? Thanks.

• OleCountry said April 26, 2009

  How do I open the file? What program do I use?

• ALEXELWAY said April 26, 2009

  Umm...Curry 4real can't have highest hit stick rating i mean c'mon 4real tho.? someone who has'nt ever put on a NFL uniform is going to hit harder than everyone else in football? if this is true i'm very disapointed in the rating system on madden 10 , i mean yall know he can hit harder than umm.... B.Sanders ?, Farrior, Harrison,Ware,Dawkins,Merriman,Lewis,R.Harrison....i mean ppl. who are known for hittin already in the NFL can't get beat by a guy who has never played or put on a NFL game or uniform. Thats the 1 thing that really got me is IF thats true about Curry havin the best hit stick than thats just wrong,God Bless

• NoSubs said April 26, 2009

  Thanks for this!

  Also, I thought players were going to have potential ratings this year, where are they?

• Topspin 92 said April 26, 2009

  It would be great if you add Cameron Wake, the OLB the dolphins picked up from the CFL. He is technically a rookie.

• Glanville79 said April 26, 2009

  You cant see the potential rating until they get on your team, gotta wait...

• Glanville79 said April 26, 2009

  Hey OleCountry, you see those words to the right of where you download the file, the one that says, "CLICK HERE to download the Excel file". Well, I think it's an "EXCEL FILE".

• pharaoh_00 said April 26, 2009

  jellybean3454 is a numbskull

• osubeavs721@gmail.com said April 26, 2009

  oregon state had 7 players drafted only 3 in the file.

  oregons jerimiah johnson was not drafted and he IS IN the file

  please explain. and oh yeah you need to watch film on Oregon Sts players all 3 of them listed should be atleast 5 points higher

• Jayomega said April 26, 2009

  Okay as a bears fan i really cant let this just slide.I actually registered just to post this. JOHNNY KNOX? he ran the fastest combine time 4.25 yet he only has 94 speed when slower WRs have 97? I really don't understand this.

• dwill250 said April 26, 2009

  How do you determine which people who entered the draft get on madden that didnt get drafted? No body picked my man from fsu up Mr. Greg Carr, or our QB Drew Wetherford but i would like to see them at least be free agents so they can still be picked up. If a qb from buffalo is on the game you gotta have a qb from fsu

• sunnygsm said April 26, 2009

  Cornelius Ingram needs to be higher than that. He runs better routes, better CIT and his blocking isn't quite that bad. should be 65-70 OVR he is better than most of those TEs rated higher than him

• mattywinny66 said April 27, 2009

  please make emanuel cook he didnt get drafted but i guarentee he will be a starter in the nfl by the middle of next year hes the new bob sanders but smarter and can actually cover players

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 27, 2009

  Can we please get some tweaks on the speed ratings? Lobbying for the 2nd fastest player at the combine Mike Wallace

• Tical2399 said April 27, 2009

  Wow the guys at EA are NOT fans of QBs i see. WOW those ratings are pretty bad. ell lets hope its A LOT easier to improve guys now. I don't want a bunch of 59-63 QBs on my roster.

• Tical2399 said April 27, 2009

  @dwill250 Exactly. I was hoping to see Greg Carr on the list also. They put Harrell who was not drafted on the game so they can do the same with Greg Carr and his FSU team mates Antone Smith and Ghram Gano.

• Tical2399 said April 27, 2009

  I must admit I am impressed a bit that I look at the ratings. I love how Harrell has a lot higher awareness rating than Sanchez. I'm a Nole so no bias to hate for either side. But Harrell was a senior and was a 3 or 4 year started and Sanchez prett much only played 1 year so it makes sense that Harrell knows more about what is going on.

• Tical2399 said April 27, 2009

  You do have Antoine Smith on there my bad. I also see you have M.R. Garvin of the list. Just Add Gano and Greg Carr and we're good to go. Damn my noles were almost shut out of the draft processes :(

• xXmEgAtrOnXxDK said April 27, 2009

  Just to let you all know, the ratings are stretched out, and are made according to the player. Some guys run faster on the FIELD, maybe why Beanie Wells is faster than Knowshon Moreno. Plus, lower tier rookies are gonna be lower tier rookies. Michael Crabtree is pretty much at an NFL level, just needs to improve, so he has an average WR rating. Mike Wallace, however, needs to polish his game, as well as get better in everything, so he is lower.

• thomasgrayMT said April 27, 2009

  A lot of people are talking about the speed ratings vs. 40-time.  It's my understanding that 40 time is just a factor in determining player speed.  Game speed and 40-time do not always correlate in the NFL.  

  Similarly with Pat White's accuracy.  He was the most accurate QB at the combine, yes, but perhaps in actual college games he wasn't as accurate as most of the QBs rated above him.  Hence the decent POTENTIAL stat, but relatively low THR ACC stat.  

  I don't know these things - I'm not from EA or anything so I'm not speaking with any authority - they're just my take on it.  

• thomasgrayMT said April 27, 2009

  Connor Barwin is listed as a LOLB, but he's going to play LDE primarily for the Texans (with Anotnio Smith moving inside - Smith is excellent rushing the passer from the interior, by the way, so being a Texans fan I hope that's reflected in the game...).  

  There was talk of Barwin playing LB, but he's never actually played the position.  He can play TE too - I don't know if you're including things like eligibility for several positions, but it's players like this that make me hope that you are.  

• xXmEgAtrOnXxDK said April 27, 2009

  I think it will be unusual to see a guy like, say, Brandon Jacobs at an 80 speed. However, I think you should play a game with your teams, guys, and see the game speed. See how the speed plays with the fliudity of the game, just dont expect Jacobs to outrun a corner.

• xXmEgAtrOnXxDK said April 27, 2009

  Well said, thomasgrayMT. Im wondering where Larry English will play. Someone has to move to the line between Merrimen, Phillips, and English.

  Also, I think Sanchez should be at least a 70 or 79, many believed he was the better QB of the two.

  Man, who will play with in Madden????>.....

• thomasgrayMT said April 27, 2009

  Great job with James Casey and Brian Cushing, but Anthony Hill is the best blocking TE in the draft and his stats are a little lower than I'd make them, personally - particularly picking up pass rushing SAM linebackers.  The guy's a beast.  His pass blocking stats are lower than they should be, IMHO - and either AWARENESS or PLAY RECOGNITION should reflect his ability to stuff blitzing 'backers at the line.  

• xXmEgAtrOnXxDK said April 27, 2009

  I also like how the ratings for rookies are tremendously scaled down, it gives them a rookie feel.

  Although, if I start Cullen Harper because of injury, and he manages the game well, i'd expect him to jump to a 65-70 range. We'll see how this goes, but I'm excited.

  BEST MADDEN GAME EVER!

• Drifterbub said April 27, 2009

  QB Stephen McGee is a 59 OVR?  He was taken at the top of the fourth round.  Chase Daniel is undrafted and is rated better, by a reasonable margin.  There are several other highly drafted players that I feel aren't rated accordingly.  Hopefully you guys adjust these based on what -real- NFL scouts said about their talent before the game launches.

• thomasgrayMT said April 27, 2009

  Excellent work with Jeremiah Johnson, but (and I hate to say this because my team just signed him) Arian Foster's INJ stat is way too high.  The guy gets injured constantly.  He plays injured, so he's tough as nails, but leaving college he's got a laundry list of injuries a mile long.  

  Quan Cosby's CTH and AWR stats are way too low.  He has outstanding hands and he's a lot older than the other draftees, so he's already developed a good sense of game awareness.  His positioning and timing are excellent.  The Bengals have got a real steal picking him up undrafted.  

  Looks great overall though.  

  Something I'd like to see with the 'potential' stat, is a grade, rather than a rating.  Hide the actual rating, otherwise it's too open to picking up players, seeing exactly what rating they can progress to and then redoing the process till you get a whole bench full of cheap potential superstars in the rough.  If it's a grade, then you just get an idea of what kind of tier of player you're looking at.  

• xXmEgAtrOnXxDK said April 27, 2009

  And something to remember before I go--about the speed, remember when Donny(I think hes the ratings guy) announced Michael Crabtree's game speed, and the guys were like, WHOA!! Well, we know that 88 speed warranted that. In past games, that would be slow for a reciever, but if an 88 got a whoa, then guys like Heyward Bey will really be able to stretch the field, and Maclin and Harvin will be gamebreakers.

  I think you all could bump up Percy Harvins toughness rating, he did play hurt and he was a RB/WR workhorse for the Gators.

  And by the by, its Massaquoi, not MassaQOUI.

  Good job EA, make us proud.

• xXmEgAtrOnXxDK said April 27, 2009

  Remember, these stats are made relative to the NFL players, plus they will be a little lower or higher depending on the guy. drifterbub, remember, there are new ratings in the game which make his ratings more accurate. Take out the Long, medium, and short accuracy, and hes a totally different rating. Keep in mind.

• twiztedjuggalo1 said April 27, 2009

  why is matt stafford only a 79 overall?? and pat white needs to be better, i could also see increasing rey maualuga's overall by about 5 points, but i do love his hit power rating because that guy is a beast. i also really don't like whatever scale is being used...it's just like the drafts in madden when you don't import, there's no stud talent to be found. the best rating is an 85. i am just saying that it was more fun last year when the rookies were mostly in the 80's and the best few were maybe in the low 90s...now the average rating is low 70s high 60s, and some of those players are 1st or 2nd round picks.

• twiztedjuggalo1 said April 27, 2009

  fix pat white please!

• Tical2399 said April 27, 2009

  The reason Stafford is 79 overall is largly due to his somewhat low rating. Thats what happens when you come out early. Look at Graham Harrell. He wasnt even drafted but he has alot higher awareness rating than Stafford because he stayed for his senior season and he started for 3 years (4 I think) Stafford is a Junior and I think only a 2 year starter.

  Just because he went number 1 doesn't mean he was the overall best player. He just filled t6he biggest need the team had (QB/Franchise face) and the rating reflect that.

• Tical2399 said April 27, 2009

  I'm a Nole so it pains me to say this but improve Percy Harvin. The guy played just as much RB in college as receiver. So some of his key RB key stats should be a little higher.

• chrisno2darock said April 27, 2009

  WHY IS Stephen McGee SLOWER THAN STAFFORD  McGee 40 IS  BETTER??? PAT WHITE first player in league history to gain over 10,000 yards in total offense (10,529).

  Sanchez 3,998 yards in total offense

  Stafford 7,944 yards in total offense

  Wow White has more yards, stop downing the QBs that can run

• Tical2399 said April 27, 2009

  I think that they had to give some player lower rating just to keep them from being too good regardless if those lower rating are undeserved. Crabtree has a 75 route running rating but he's already tied for the second best rookie on the game with an 84 rating. if they boosted his route running up to where it really is (somewhere around 85) then his overall would be about 86-87. So I think they purposely reduce some players ratings so they don't stand out as FAR better than the rest of the draft class.

• Tical2399 said April 27, 2009

  A few posts ups I meant to say awareness rating when I was talking about Stafford

• Jazzman83 said April 27, 2009

  Hey Donny,

  I dont know if the ratings are finalized yet, but if not, the one thing I noticed was that Jarron Gilbert's STR rating was an 80.  I would like to ask you to reconsider this as he dead lifted 655 pounds, squatted 630 pounds, benched 225 pounds 28 times at the combine, and was able to jump out of 3 feet of water.  Videos posted below.  Thanks for the consideration!

  Jumping out of pool: www.youtube.com/watch

  Squatting and dead lifting: www.youtube.com/watch

• AD20 said April 27, 2009

  Sherrod Martin for the Panthers deserves a higher speed rating then an 87. He ran a 4.52 for his first time at the combine, but he ran 4.38 on his second try and also had ran a 4.46 at his pro day. They even talked about during the draft how fast he was. His speed rating should be in the 90s and even still i think a 87 is way to low. And also he will be playing corner for the panthers not safety which has already been stated by the team. Please look into these changes. Thanks.

• Glanville79 said April 27, 2009

  EA will listen to none of you about ratings. "Raise this guy or that guy cuz I think he's better!" They got these numbers after a lot of work, and for many reasons. Also, they were made b4 the draft, so whatever round they were drafted doesn't matter. So stop complaining, they aren't doing to change it for a couple people that want their guy higher for whatever reason. If they play better, they will be rewarded, whether it's in a ratings update, or in Franchise with a combination of Potential Rating and Productivity.

  Props EA and Donny Moore, decent job by me.

  ...and my Eagles are gunna roll over fools this year!

  In the NFL and Madden! Watch out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• MooseNamedChaz said April 27, 2009

  at points, i was thinking WTF, but i guess it will make more sense as the rosters for all teams are released, and there is comparisons

• KrazyJvilleD said April 27, 2009

  you left out both of the jaguars 3rd round picks...

  terrance knighton is a 6'3 DT and is 321 pounds and ran a 4.9 at his proday i believe...

  also, a VERY underated and unknown CB that the jaguars heavily scouted and feel will be a starter day 1 this year, who they also had as a 2nd round grade...

  Derek Cox... 6'1 188 pounds from William and Mary... ran a 4.39 at his proday.. had the longest broad jump of ANY PLAYER at any position with 11'8 broad jump, and 36.5 inch vertical..... very good man and zone guy... lacks physicalness right now, but an instant starter that only a few teams knew about, the patriots being one of them...

  when will they be added?

• Glanville79 said April 27, 2009

  KrazyJvillD, they will be on there when the game releases, does it really matter if its b4 then. Or do u need to know if they will be a 63 or 65 rating, does it matter, does it. You people need to chill out. But I love all the stupid comments and questions...keep em coming so I can make fun of 'em... lol :D

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 27, 2009

  Everyone knows that speed kills in Madden.  It is readily evident when you see players using the Titans (Chris Johnson), but has their favorite team listed as somethimg else.  Speaking as a player who never plays with anyone besides the Steelers speed is a rarity and when we earn it we want to keep it.  I mean fast Willie Parker can't even outrun LB's these days on 09.

• denverbro89 said April 27, 2009

  Madden 09 should have a remove player option for franchise mode, in 09 as soon as I start a season, a team signs a guy who is not playing anymore or retired, usually I would just lower a player like Al Wilson(who's been out of the league for about three years) so low that no one wants to sign him.This is a very long process and and a add/remove players option would be cool for those that don't have online capabilities(roster update). I like the stretched player ratings, maybe now my 92 RB can outrun a DL. Madden 09 isn't terrible, its just that it does a lot of little things wrong, which adds up and every knows it can be better.

• JSTEVENS38 said April 27, 2009

  why is it that when i pick off a pass and recover a fumble on defense, my cornerbacks and safteys are getting run down by offense linemen behind them?

• JSTEVENS38 said April 27, 2009

  there's no way jason peters could catch cortland finnegan from behind, which just happened

• cjones205 said April 27, 2009

  Hey you might want to redo Glen Coffee rating for the Niners.  You got some rookies FA higher rated than him.  You guys need to watch Alabama game before the bowl games. The Niners know how to draft RBs (Frank Gore) if you guys take combine numbers and film tape you see he plays better than you got him rated.  

• 47wicho47 said April 27, 2009

  I think Mike Wallace WR from OLE Miss should have more speed if you look back at the combine he ran one of the fastest forties  4.33       jeremy maclin ran less and has i96 speed

• cjones205 said April 27, 2009

  I would like to see how the progression of player is going to work in Madden 10.  I remeber playing a madden 04 where I had a cb 7th round rating of 50 something.  He had the typical stats of a corner but I simmed the season cause I was rebuilding for the next draft.  He accumulated 80 tackles and 5 interceptions.  Thinking this was a fluke I simmed again.  Simular stats.  His progress bump up in EVERY slot.  I would love to see that be implemented so you can really see if a 6 or 7 round pick can be an Francise Player. Let the stats make the player.

• lbb33 said April 27, 2009

  custom camera angles!custom camera angles!custom camera angles!

  custom camera angles!custom camera angles!custom camera angles!

  custom camera angles!custom camera angles!custom camera angles!

  custom camera angles!custom camera angles!custom camera angles!

  custom camera angles!custom camera angles!custom camera angles!

  custom camera angles!custom camera angles!custom camera angles!

  custom camera angles!custom camera angles!custom camera angles!

  custom camera angles!custom camera angles!custom camera angles!

  bloggers can yall help me out here and make sure we get custom camera angles on this years madden? please! we fans voices should be heard help me out so we can get custom camera angles thank you. ea can yall let us know before the game come out please?

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 27, 2009

  I would be happy if we could see all WR's from sideline to sideline,

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 27, 2009

  Oh I forgot tell you all that I already run the Wildcat offense with the Steelers online.  Anyone interested in seeing it in action hit me up online with a challenge.  You guys from the EA lab can hit me up too, that way you can see how it really plays out online.

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 27, 2009

  Wildcat Preview anyone?  I can show you how to run it online in 09 right now.

• lbb33 said April 27, 2009

  thats why we should have custom camera angles that we can have the view of our choosing. i like the close up camera angle like in superstar mode for the running backs. but help me out please can we have custom camera angles on this madden nfl 10. bloggers dont you agree? you can enjoy madden how ever you want. lets please get this back in the game. thank you. let me know what yall think out their?    

• xXmEgAtrOnXxDK said April 27, 2009

  With the ratings, many guys are forgetting the extra ratings added, and the stretched out ratings.

  First of all, 40 yard dash isnt everything. Ask Jerry Rice.

  And Jeremy Maclin/Percy Harvin need their speeds to be higher to make them gamebreakers.

  However, speed shouldnt be everything. The ratings are unusual, but I think they will play out way more accurately this year.

• Tical2399 said April 27, 2009

  @cjones205. With the 205 I assume you are from Bama. I'm a niner and I am so mad that we took Coffee. Wasted pick. Andre Brown and Javone Ringer were on the board and we passed them for Coffee. My niners will regret that move.

• Tical2399 said April 27, 2009

  LOL @ Glanville79 I love guys like you who just defend the devs for no reason. I personally feel that some of the ratings are off. But to sit there and get on people for not agreeing with the devs LOl worthy. Its not like you're gonna get a free copy of the game for kissing up.

  It be honest alot of the state seem to be arbitrarily assigned. It folks like you that made EA feel that they didn't have to change anything in years past because they knew they had people like you out there who would defend them and tell them they are doing a great job no matter what.

  And if what you say is true then the rating make LESS sense not more. As people have been saying there are guys who ran faster time at both their pro days and at the combine but are rated slower than those who ran slower times at both. I really could care less because to be honest some of the guys I never even heard of. But if he ran faster he should be rated faster. Don't give people a hard time because they point it out.

• Tical2399 said April 27, 2009

  And as far as you saying the guys at EA are not going to listen to us. Well that's one reason people constantly complain about the quality of the game, because the devs don't listen to the customers.

• MrPreGame said April 27, 2009

  Terrrance Taylor- DT Michigan

  78 STRENGTH WHHAAATTT?????

  had second most 225lb. bench reps AT THE COMBINE OF ANY PLAYER THERE 37 REPS.  How can he be one of the weakest DTs drafted... COME ON.

• MrPreGame said April 27, 2009

  and another colts pick Jerraud Powers a CB isn't on the list

• xBig Teezyx said April 27, 2009

  Madden ratings have always been suspect. Everyone is acting so surprised.

• xBig Teezyx said April 27, 2009

  Oh and not all the numbers are right either, Stafford will be 9 because 7 is retired to some bum.

• Z-RoThaCrooked said April 27, 2009

  whats with the shoulder pads looking lik wings? isee that hasnt been fixed

  [img]g.imagehost.org/.../EugeneMonroe.jpg[/img]

  [img]g.imagehost.org/.../bjRaji.jpg[/img]

  way too wide... they look like wings

• nfog77 said April 27, 2009

  With draft featuring so many D-lineman that could be linebackers in the pros, will there be a way to change their position?  In '09 the position change from d-line to linebacker casuses a severe drop in ratings.  Thanks for reading.  

• Madden8910fan said April 27, 2009

  B.j Raji should be atleast 83 overall. This kid is a beast at Defensive tackle. Who is doing the rating? Whoever it is i think they should start looking for a replacement.

• TheProgram61 said April 27, 2009

  Sorry i dont know where else i can post this for EA to read dont get bitchy that its here just let me know where i can post this what do you think of my ideas if they havent been said already peace

  Franchise; replace the head coach game and make the draft, scouting . FA signings etc as good as  it is no better then it is on head coach and make madden the ultimate complete football game expereince 1. the draft show the war room show radio city music hall with the top prospects getting drafted and shking hands with the commisioner and getting there "1" jersey and also be nice to a top prospect slipping down and staying in the green room E.G Aaron Rodgers and everett brown make the draft in the game a big deal as it is and should be just like it is in real life: Show clips of players at the scouting combine bench pressing running 40 yard dash jumping etc include pre draft interviews see if the players even want to play for your team hence peyton manning eli manning michael crabtree

  Dominatorchewie: yea that sounds awesome : 2. Game play Better more animations of catches tipped pass catches diving catches one handed "realistic" Replays need to be broken down with good color commentary mistakes that were made or great desicison pointed out a fatigue system where you need to utilize your 2nd and 3rd string running backs or else there usless and dont need to use space cap on a 2nd back unless 1st string gets injured and that also needs to be changed medical staff run on field with the coach ambulance stretcher if need be

  3. Broadcast use ESPN better color commentary get rid of collinsworth use troy aikman steve young to call the games amd break down the replays   get mel kiper and mcshay for the draft get chris berman and or rich eisen for a week review show of highlights and events going down have a pre game warm up show qbs throwing wrs catching have a practice a few plays if you get them correctly done your players will  boost there stats for those plays if done correctly

  ChiefDT61: 4. player personalitys just like pre draft interview every player needs one have an interview in person or over the phone deal with Free Agent signings talk them into coming rather then just the money have commisioner deal penaltys out suspensions for substance abuse and violations have team violations that if you dont give one out it affects your status like in ncaa

• heversle said April 27, 2009

  Percy Harvin should have a stronger strength rating. According to you guys, Maclin is stronger than him. That's ridiculous.

• john5153 said April 27, 2009

  but u are right...complaining isnt going to help? most of u guys know the bums numbers because u follow them..... most of these guys will only see time on special teams... so the ratings will keep them there... the only request that should be made is the ability to progress.....

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 28, 2009

  john5153 what are you talking about, if you choose to keep them on your bench that's your problem.  The people that play madden will put them to good use regardless of what the actual team does.

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 28, 2009

  did I say Mike Wallace speed should be at (& or higher considering he had the second fastest time at the combine vice the 93 scraps that was assigned to him

• cjones205 said April 28, 2009

  @Tical2399 do you really think Alabama start bad running backs.  We drafted Frank Gore in the 3rd round.  How did that work out.   Coffee is the not comming in to be the franchise back.  Thats fine the more ppl doubt him the better he has to play.  I do not doubt SEC players.

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 28, 2009

  Official WR Combine 40 time:

  Notice who is not even in the Top 5

  Name Time  

  Heyward-Bey, Darrius 4.30

  Wallace, Mike 4.33

  Knox, Johnny 4.34

  Butler, Deon 4.38

  Thomas, Mike 4.40

  Harvin, Percy 4.41

  Underwood, Tiquan 4.41

  Byrd, Demetrius 4.42

  Murphy, Louis 4.43

  McKinley, Kenny 4.44

  Ogletree, Kevin 4.46

  Edison, Dominique 4.47

  Maclin, Jeremy 4.48

  Mitchell, Marko 4.49

  Sargeant, Lydell 4.50

  Johnson, Taurus 4.52

  Means, Andrew 4.52

  Kelly, Aaron 4.53

  Iglesias, Juaquin 4.54

  Britt, Kenny 4.56

  Cosby, Quan 4.57

  Dillard, Jarett 4.57

  Hartline, Brian 4.58

  Passmore, Darius 4.59

  Robiskie, Brian 4.59

  Stroughter, Sammie 4.59

  Norwood, Jordan 4.62

  Collie, Austin 4.63

  Nicks, Hakeem 4.63

  Massaquoi, Mohamed 4.66

  Richmond, David 4.66

  Barden, Ramses 4.68

  Williams, Derrick 4.68

  Childs, Jeremy 4.69

  Swift, Nate 4.70

  Williams, Jaison 4.72

  Orton, Greg 4.75

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 28, 2009

  TOP 20 Receiving Statistics NCAA Division I-A

   NAME REC YDS YPR LONG TD

  1. Austin Collie, BYU 106 1538 14.5 76 15

  2. Dez Bryant, Oklahoma St 87 1480 17.0 80 19

  3. Dezmon Briscoe, Kansas 92 1407 15.3 69 15

  4. Naaman Roosevelt, Buffalo 104 1402 13.5 68 13

  5. Kenny Britt, Rutgers 87 1371 15.8 93 7

  6. James Casey, Rice 111 1329 12.0 47 13

  7. Jarett Dillard, Rice 87 1310 15.1 80 20

  8. Jamarko Simmons, W Michigan 104 1276 12.3 50 7

   Marshwan Gilyard, Cincy 81 1276 15.8 69 11

  10. Chris Williams, New Mexico St 86 1271 14.8 84 9

  11. Jeremy Maclin, Missouri 102 1260 12.4 80 13

  12. Hakeem Nicks, UNC 68 1222 18.0 74 12

  13. Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech 97 1165 12.0 82 19

  14. Juaquin Iglesias, Oklahoma 74 1150 15.5 48 10

  15. Marko Mitchell, Nevada 61 1141 18.7 75 10

  16. Quan Cosby, Texas 92 1123 12.2 40 10

  17. Casey Fitzgerald, N Texas 113 1119 9.9 57 6

  18. DeAndre Brown, So Miss 67 1117 16.7 97 12

  19. Rashaun Greer, Colo St 63 1114 17.7 69 3

  20. Brennan Marion, Tulsa 43 1112 25.9 97 8

• coltoneberenz said April 28, 2009

  The rookie ratings are a joke.  And from past madden games they hardly ever improve.  I play mlb the show alot, and they have potential ratings on all their players.  Is the potential rating is an A he improves to be an elite player, B improves to be a average player but sometimes elite also.  C hardly improves and so on.  If madden Adobted somthing like that into it, it wouldnt matter how they started out but how they could improve.

• dks151023 said April 28, 2009

  how about eye black for the players or least let us edit that feature also 49ers have new uniforms

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 28, 2009

  How about a ratings swagga meter.  Stats updated weekly, if rookies play stats improve, if they are riding the pine their stats stay the same.  The same should go for the team, if your team is smashing folks their swagga or favorability on calls, interceptions, fumbles, goal line stops etc should increase etc.

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 28, 2009

  EA... If you really want to impress me, instead of a gamecast where we can only see the scores of persons on our friends list.  How about PSL's where we can actually see the games our friends are playing.  Friends can back seat QB if you will, help friends call plays, break down the coverage etc.  Yeah before you ask you can steal the idea, I have a millions of them for cheap.  Who else thinks that would be kool?

• STEELCITYMAFIA said April 28, 2009

  If anyone from EA likes what I'm putting down I can be reached at Steelcitymafia@yahoo.com  I'll be retiring soon from the military after 20 years of service and I could use a job.

• BuddahSmash83 said April 28, 2009

  Brandon Pettigrew: 75 catching? If anything I'm thinking 78. He has soft strong hands and rarely drops the ball. I don't like his speed rating, but can't debate it due to obvious 40 time.

  Louis Delmas: Needs to have a speed of 87 (I know 1 little point). Chip Vaughn needs to have an 85, especially if William Moore ran the same 40 and has 85 speed. Delmas ran a faster 40 at combine.

  Zack Follett: I think he deserves an increase in POW and pass rushing skills.

  "Well-known for his hard-hitting, aggressive style of play, the First-Team All-Pac-10 player led the conference in tackles for loss (23) and logged 10.5 quarterback sacks during his senior year"

  STRENGTHS

  Aggressiveness  

  Instincts  

  Tackling Technique  

  AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT

  Lateral Movement  

  Pass Coverage Skills  

  "Follett is an instinctive defender who makes plays all over the field. He moves well laterally, diagnoses the action and has great closing speed. He’s an outstanding tackler, who has excellent range and is a highly effective pass rusher. He has good awareness and possesses a high football IQ. - Chris Steuber, Scout.com"

  Rey Maualuga Bench Press: 23 Reps

  Zack Follett Bench Press: 21 reps (deserving of at least a 76 STR)

  Rey Maualuga Combine 40 result: 4.91

  Zack Follett Pro Day Result: 4.69 (9 point speed difference between the two? hmmm)

• BuddahSmash83 said April 28, 2009

  Brandon Pettigrew: 75 catching? If anything I'm thinking 78. He has soft strong hands and rarely drops the ball. I don't like his speed rating, but can't debate it due to obvious 40 time.

  Louis Delmas: Needs to have a speed of 87 (I know 1 little point). Chip Vaughn needs to have an 85, especially if William Moore ran the same 40 and has 85 speed. Delmas ran a faster 40 at combine.

  Zack Follett: I think he deserves an increase in POW and pass rushing skills.

  "Well-known for his hard-hitting, aggressive style of play, the First-Team All-Pac-10 player led the conference in tackles for loss (23) and logged 10.5 quarterback sacks during his senior year"

  STRENGTHS

  Aggressiveness  

  Instincts  

  Tackling Technique  

  AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT

  Lateral Movement  

  Pass Coverage Skills  

  "Follett is an instinctive defender who makes plays all over the field. He moves well laterally, diagnoses the action and has great closing speed. He’s an outstanding tackler, who has excellent range and is a highly effective pass rusher. He has good awareness and possesses a high football IQ. - Chris Steuber, Scout.com"

  Rey Maualuga Bench Press: 23 Reps

  Zack Follett Bench Press: 21 reps (deserving of at least a 76 STR)

  Rey Maualuga Combine 40 result: 4.91

  Zack Follett Pro Day Result: 4.69 (9 point speed difference between the two? hmmm)

• Tical2399 said April 28, 2009

  @cjones205 The last big time RB you guys had that came out was Alexander. That was over 10 years ago. To be fair I think you guys have produced a few late round RB since then(i'll do the research), but don't act like Bama is some cant miss RB factory. The fact is I dont mind having Coffee on the team. What I do mind is having Coffee on the team with our 3rd round pick which should have been spend on Rashad Johnson (a bama player that was the best at his position on the board). Coffee would have been there in round 5, and if not Javon Ringer was there.

• lizard52 said April 28, 2009

  fix Darrius Heyward-Bey's Jumping Rating he had a 38.5 Vertical Leap also his awareness and Route Running Rating!!what system are you using to rate these players the system seems to suck!

• PlayAction said April 28, 2009

  I guess this is more along the line of how we can use the rookies in the game.

  I'm not sure if this is in the game, but watching the draft really got me to thinking about player position changes. I will use Larry English who is now with San Diego as an example. He is listed as a Defensive End but he is going to be converting to a 3-4 Outside Linebacker. Will I be able to put him in this position on the game? I think it would be great to have the ability to change his postion to OLB and then have him develop in that slot, or at least be able to place him there on the depth chart. It would be nice to put players where you want them to play.

  This would be huge in Franchise Mode (during the draft especially). Say I see a player I think would make a good conversion from DE to OLB in the 3-4 and I draft that player. I should be able to change that players position to OLB and then have him develop in that slot. If I made a good choice the player gets better as the years go by and end up with a Terrell Suggs type guy, but if I make a wrong choice he ends up a sub-par player at best. Same goes for a player I might project as a safety instead of a corner and vice versa.

  If we can feel the pressure through the controller on QB pressure I'm sure we can put this into the framework. This is a very real part of football that would add even more realism to Madden.

• xKIDIcarusx said April 29, 2009

  pat white speed should be at least 93 or 94

• xKIDIcarusx said April 29, 2009

  vontae davis tackling should be alot higher

  michael crabtree cant be faster than pat white

  watch pat white highlights on youtube you will see how fast he is

  and yes im a dolphin fan

• xMAKAVELIx said April 30, 2009

  First of all you guys cant read 40 times.  If you did id wouldn't be hard to figure speed.  Instead your telling me that Javon Ringer is as slow as LenDale White. Your nuts. You say Kenny Britt is an 87. Get REAL.  Look at the 40 Times. SPEED SHOULD BE EASY TO FIGURE.  If you guys cant get that right how do you say its MORE REALISTIC.  Hello are we looking at the same sheet.  You guys make it so the guys you THINK are good are faster than the times they ran. ITS all on paper.  HOW DO YOU MESS THIS UP. EVERY YEAR. The only speed to guess is crabtree.  Make it REAL

• xMAKAVELIx said April 30, 2009

  For instence Jeremy Maclin ran .08 of a second faster than Kenny Britt.  And you want to make his speed 9 points higher.  Britt 87 - Maclin 96. Ist 8 tenths of a second faster for u idiots that didnt know.  U guys need to quitt picking favorites. I guess your saying Javon Ringer ran the same 40 as LenDale White.  Chris Johnson ran a 4.24 - Maclin ran 4.48 and u make him almost as fast.  Come on. And while were on the subject u guys gave Tony Romo a passing accuracy of 97 on last years game. Are you nuts?  He cant even make it to the playoffs.  You guys wanna act like hes Dan Freaken Marino.  HE SUCKS.  Can someone please tell me any kind of explanation for this.  I bet John Kitna takes his job by the end of the year.  ATLEAST GET THE SPEED RIGHT.  Thats why they run 40yd dash.

• xMAKAVELIx said April 30, 2009

  You glorify the players you like and that isnt fair to the rest of the NFL players.  I would take offence to this if I were a player.  Chris Johnson ran 4.24 and Jeremy Maclin a 4.48.  Thats .24 difference.  Not Close. Why are their speeds so close.  If I was Johnson I'd be pissed.  

• xMAKAVELIx said April 30, 2009

  For instance (again) you make Hakeem Nicks faster than Kenny Britt but of course Britt ran the 40 faster.  You guys are gay.  What order they get drafted in doesnt make them faster.  Its starting to make me wish there were other football games coming out.  Cause this is starting to SUCK.  I thought you guys wanted to MAKE IT REAL.  Guess not.

• xMAKAVELIx said April 30, 2009

  D. Edison ran a faster time than Maclin but I bet you guys make him slower.  If you make him at all cause your not in love with him like some of the other players.  I cant believe all the brains there and you cant figure why they use stopwatches.  GET REAL

• xMAKAVELIx said April 30, 2009

  And yes im a Titans fan.  We got screwed in the playoffs and now were geting screwed in madden.  Just like last year it took till Superbowl Sunday to give Kerry Collins any credit.  And he still not up to par.  Then when you do make him better you make Vince Young suck by taking 10 point from his overall.  He got hurt.  When Tom Brady got hurt you didnt take away from him.  DID YA.  Tennessee has two good Qbs.  Just cause you make one better doesnt mean you have to ruin the others ratings.  You didnt do it to Carson Palmer either.  Vince isnt going anywhere.  Hes had a rough ride but he is still 18-6 AS A STARTER.  QUIT PLAYING FAVORITES. YOU GUYS SUCK

• xMAKAVELIx said April 30, 2009

  YOURS TRULY: xMAKAVELIx  THA REALEST

• xMAKAVELIx said April 30, 2009

  P.S.  YOU GUYS HAVE MY EMAIL ADRESS IF YOU NEED TO HIRE ME TO FIGURE OUT THE SPEED RATINGS CAUSE YOU DONT HAVE ANYONE THERE THAT SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE DOING.  GET IT RIGHT. DONT PLAY FAVORITES. MAN UP AND GIVE THE FANS THE TRUTH. EVEN THE ONES THAT CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH.  PLAYERS MAY ACCELLERATE FASTER BUT TOP END SHOULDNT BE THIS HARD FOR YOU TO FIGURE OUT.  HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU GUYS MAKE A YEAR. GET A REAL SYSTEM

• BuddahSmash83 said April 30, 2009

  Brandon Pettigrew: 75 catching? If anything I'm thinking 78. He has soft strong hands and rarely drops the ball. I don't like his speed rating, but can't debate it due to obvious 40 time.

  Louis Delmas: Needs to have a speed of 87 (I know 1 little point). Chip Vaughn needs to have an 85, especially if William Moore ran the same 40 and has 85 speed. Delmas ran a faster 40 at combine.

  Zack Follett: I think he deserves an increase in POW and pass rushing skills.

  "Well-known for his hard-hitting, aggressive style of play, the First-Team All-Pac-10 player led the conference in tackles for loss (23) and logged 10.5 quarterback sacks during his senior year"

  STRENGTHS

  Aggressiveness  

  Instincts  

  Tackling Technique  

  AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT

  Lateral Movement  

  Pass Coverage Skills  

  "Follett is an instinctive defender who makes plays all over the field. He moves well laterally, diagnoses the action and has great closing speed. He’s an outstanding tackler, who has excellent range and is a highly effective pass rusher. He has good awareness and possesses a high football IQ. - Chris Steuber, Scout.com"

  Rey Maualuga Bench Press: 23 Reps

  Zack Follett Bench Press: 21 reps (deserving of at least a 76 STR)

  Rey Maualuga Combine 40 result: 4.91

  Zack Follett Pro Day Result: 4.69 (9 point speed difference between the two? hmmm)

• TATMANFISH said May 01, 2009

  roy miller strenghth rating sould be higher. best bench numbers at the combine(36 reps). he also holds a bunch of power lifting records at texas. his strength should be closer to 99 than 89. also being that he was rated by most as being somewhere between the 5-10th best DT in the draft, his overall should be higher. then again if his strength is fixed, so will his overall.josh freeman should have the stongest arm because he does in real life. his deep ball acuracy should be a little higher. his overall should be closer to 75. there is a larger gap in talent between the first 3 qbs in the draft and the rest.

• cjones205 said May 01, 2009

  @tical2399  just watch Alabama football.  You cannot win in the SEC without it.  Its true he had a great O LINE but you still have to break tackles and get that 3 & 1.  That's all he is being asked to do right now.  If he can do that, mission accomplished.  How is that a waste when your only task is to give Frank Gore a break.  You are looking for a replacement for Gore I am looking for a guy to help us win games.  

• Steelcurtain69 said May 02, 2009

  This rating system is pretty gay, Evander (Ziggy) hood is a DT drafted by the Steelers and he is 6ft 298 pounds and runs a 4.8 and he has a 68 speed rating along with a higher finesse rating than power rating

• ron9151 said May 03, 2009

  I think that the biggest issue is that in an equal playing field, Pat White demonstrated his skills at the NFL combine.  After watching the combine, I fully expected Pat White to be included in the higher rated quarterbacks.  Lets face it, NONE of the quarterbacks in this years draft have played a single NFL down.  All we have to go buy are college stats, NFL combine, Senior bowl (MVP), and the projections from the NFL experts.  

  For the most part, all we(I assume all Madden players) want is consistency.  I have viewed the stats for all of the rookie quarterbacks.  Taking into account the new rating system, I believe that Pat whites stats are a little low.  The main stats are Throwing Power and Accuracy.  NFL experts all agree that he throws the best deep ball among the current QB rookies. On the same note, I am wondering if his potential should be around 88.  I base that on coaching staff and what NFL experts say.  His low stats are not far fetched seeing as he will need some development.

  Now that the rating scale has changed, I think that he should be rated overall in the high 60's.  A joy for me playing in franchise mode is developing my players.  

  A suggestion to EA Sports:

  I know that the new rating scales have been put in place already but I have wanted this change to come for years (congrats on making that happen!).

  30 - 39 - sub par should not be in the league

  40 - 49 - Below average players but have a special skill (ex: very fast)

  50 - 59 - average player, ratings for role players and special teams

  60 - 69 - good players

  70 - 79 - Great players, impact player, average starters

  80 - 89 - Vastly superior players - players that are very good but not the greatest ever

  90 - 99 - elite player, cream of the crop/ hall of fame worthy

  I think EA is on the right track.  I will admit that for me, NFL2K was on the verge of making me put madden down.  Not because the game was better but because of the way players were rated.  In that (evil) game (smile) the players were rated almost the same with one exception.  a quarterback could be rated 99 overall without maxing out his stats.  An O-lineman could be a dominant run blocker and a good pass blocker, be ratted 99 overall without maxing out states.  I believe if EA sports took this approach, these kinds of things would not be an issue (Pat White's rating).  Think of it, a WR that is 99 overall because his skill set is that good but his speed is 86.  How great it would be to have players that are 99 overall but with different skill sets.  If this were the case, just because a player was rated high would not mean he is a player that would work in my offensive or defensive philosophy.  

  Anyway, thank you for taking the time to read this.  I will end by saying that if Pat White's stats are low, his potential should be high.  "Ron Jaworski, said White has as good fundamentals as any quarterback in this year’s draft" with that being said, I do not have a problem with him having a low start but the boom factor for him is extremely high.  for me, I take into account who drafted him, Bill Parcells.  He has a great record for recognizing NFL talent, his track record speaks for itself.  Chad Pennington is not a hall of fame player but he has the highest career completion rating of all time 66%, he is also 8th all time in Passer Rating.  I believe  the man knows his stuff and him picking Pat White says he thinks the man can play.  I chose Ron Jaworski's comments about Pat White because of all the experts, he looks at what is most important, the game film and workouts.  EA, if you are reading, take all of what we are saying into consideration.  Some of the people that play franchise mode are on year 2 or 3 before the first roster update ;-D

• TATMANFISH said May 04, 2009

  PAT WHITE WAS DRAFTED FOR THE WILDCAT!!!!! not to be the franchise qb! the rating are fairly close to accurate.

• ron9151 said May 04, 2009

  The dolphins drafted Pat white as a quarterback.  They have 3 on the roster, they also released john beck!  They ONLY have 3 QB's on the roster.  I understand everyone WANTING Pat White to only be a wildcat QB but the facts are the facts, he is a QB on the dolphins roster.  Everyone speculates about the wildcat.  Pat White was a QB at the combine, a QB at his pro day, and he is a QB on the dolphins roster....STOP MAKING HIM WHAT YOU WANT, he is a QB!

  Nuff Said

• ron9151 said May 04, 2009

  Pat White Career Stats

  Season Games Comp-Att Yds YPA YPC Comp % TD INT Long Rush Yds Avg Lg TD

  Total 49 507-783 6,049 8.31 11.93 64.8 % 56 23 79 684 4,480 6.5 76 477

  Bowl Games

  WVU   Passing   Rushing

  Year Record Game Win/Loss Opponent Comp-Att Yds Avg Comp % TD INT Long Rush Yds Avg Lg TD

  Jan. 2006 11-1 Sugar Bowl WIN Georgia 11-14 120 8.6 78.6 % 1 0 30 24 77 3.2 13 0

  Jan. 2007 11-2 Gator Bowl WIN Georgia Tech 9-15 131 8.7 60.0 % 2 0 58 22 145 6.6 27 1

  Jan. 2008 11-2 Fiesta Bowl WIN Oklahoma 10-19 176 9.3 52.6 % 2 0 79 20 150 7.5 42 0

  Dec. 2008 9-4 Meineke Bowl WIN N. Carolina 26-32 332 10.4 81.3 % 3 1 44 21 55 2.6 16 0

  Total 42-9 ---- 4-0 ----                        56-80 759 8.9 70.0 % 8 1 79 87 427 4.9 42 1  

  "After being drafted, Dolphins' general manager Jeff Ireland stated that White would be in competition for the starting quarterback job with Chad Pennington and Chad Henne, "

  Mark Sanchez Career

  Year Team G Cmp Att Comp % Yds Yd/A TDs Int Sacked Yds

  career 22 313 487 64.3 3965 8.1 41 16 23 147

  Matt Stafford Career Stats

  Career Passing Rushing Sacked

  Year Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/A Yds/G TD Int Rush Yds Yds/G Avg TD S

  Career 39 83.1 564 987 56.6 7731 7.7 198.2 51 33 141 213 5.5 1.5 6 44

  The stats speak for themselves.  If you compare career stats, Pat White is a QB that can run, not vice versa.  The Dolphins have him as a QB on their official roster, make him a QB!  

• DBD5BlackCeasar said May 08, 2009

  Hi all

  I think for the most part these ratings are very accurate, but there are a few that kind of blow my mind. Mostly when it comes to speed you have Heyward-bey & Harvin as the same speed when there 40 times are not the same. In fact Heyward-bey ran a 4.30 and Harvin ran a 4.41.

  I don't mean to split hairs, but I know so many people that are so excited about this design team and there attention to detail. I also wanted to request a blog post that I hope to see soon, on line leagues. As I read the blogs & the post from all of the many fans it would be pretty incredible to have the ability to play a full scheduled and stat tracked season online. I don't want to talk about who had it first or anything like that I would just like to have it now. P.S. Thank you so much for all the hard work the game looks great, it feels good to have some one work on this game that cares as much about it as we do.

  Ceasar

• MrBlunt said May 14, 2009

  yup, i agree.  all EA would have to do is go and look at the 40 times from the combine and they would know approximately what the guys rating should be.  it's funny how terrell owens was a speed receiver all of last year for the cowboys but i know that owens has never run better than a 4.5

  you guys at EA sports are idiots.  i would even dare to say that you guys are criminals.  madden on the next gen has been garbage so far.

• zacH12 r3 said June 04, 2009

  40 times aren't everything.  It is very difficult to do speeds.  You need to combine what they did at the combine/proday with their speed on the field.

  For those of you complaining about Maclin being a 97 did you ever see him play?  He is incredibly fast on the field.  I do not agree with 97 but he should be no lower than a 95 rating.  Same agruement for Harvins speed compared to Heyward-Bey.  Harvin is much faster on the field than he ran at the combine.

  Also they have redone all the ratings systems so not everyone is 90+ speed anymore.

  As for the vince young comment.  He needs to be worse overall.  His fundamentals are terrible as is his accuracy as a QB.  He also should have a very low awareness rating because he does a poor job of surveying the field.

  When it comes to TO he is again faster on the field than his 40 time says.  You can't just look at 40 times!  They are the most overrated thing in ALL of sports!  You need to look at how fast they are in pads and TO is pretty damn fast in pads.

• cjones205 said June 04, 2009

  Okay so where is the big update coming for the rookie list?  I am itching to see how you did the rookie tight end for the Niners.

• RyuShinomori@aol.com said July 04, 2009

  people people. forty times don't equal speed. only when they are like randy moss. forty times just mean they had good preparation. good but it still don't mean they are as fast as the time says. Felix Jones had a 4.41 and well we should know by now that hes fast. also players that are overlooked are very hard to evaluate. Jason Williams and the later picks aren't very well known so its hard to find info on them. wait till they play then see if the stats aren't good enough. either way the new average is 70. therefore add 10 to each ovr and youll get a madden. cm - inch conversion

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