Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 10 – Coming Soon to Live Tournaments!

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• B Diddy said June 30, 2009

  I like the idea of Online PGA Tour Seasons.  I think I have helped sell about 7 copies of Tiger Woods 10.  I converted my NHL 09 team into Tiger Woods players as we wait for NHL 10.  :)  

  We would love a feature that allowed us to create a season we all could compete in.  I do not like competing against the general public because that is just a bit ridiculous.  -90? -85?  I mean, come on... I am not that good, and don't ever care to be.

  But to compete against my friends, where we post similar scores, and aren't as ridiculous as the general public, that would be a lot of fun.

• StormJr said June 30, 2009

  That all sounds great Mike.

  Would there still be specific difficulty type tournaments in addition to the handicapped tournaments?

  The Live tournament season sounds VERY interesting. There would have to be at the very least a Tour Mode version and a Default version. I think the season length depends on how many round tornaments you'd be playing. If it's 1 tournament a week for 4 rounds, I'd say 6-8 weeks per season would do. If you are going to do a few two round tournaments a week (which is what I would vote for), 4-6 weeks would suffice. It has to be long enough and often enough to demand the players that want to compete in it to play each tournament, but short enough that players don't lose interest.

  As far as courses...I think all courses should be fair game and that includes DLC. And in my opinion, this should be for all the Live Tournaments. I try to play a lot of Live Tournaments and would love to see the Predator make an appearance in a Live Tourney.

• ChinoNYC said June 30, 2009

  Hey Mike, I think this would be a great format, but I have one suggestion...

  Make it an 11-event season, with the 12th one being a playoff tournament for the top 100 ranked players in each skill level.  

• HeatGuyJR said June 30, 2009

  i would like to be able to create my own PGA Tour Season so that me and my friends can play against each other.  sometimes you don't want to compete with everyone in the world.  even if you do, you might want to have your world ranking and your friends list ranking separate.  another reason i'd like to have this is to make it easier to play with friends if you  have more than 3 friends who you want to play against since you can only have 4 guys in a match at once.

• SuperD123 said June 30, 2009

  Here are my thoughts on an Online PGA Tour:

  1) We should have One event Per week in a 12 week Tour featuring 12 of the 16 courses in the game (All different, never the same)

  2) You could have 2 Online PGA Tours with One for Amateur and One for Tour Pro. ALL Single Try.

  3) Then introduce a Top 200 4 week Fedexcup like system for the end of the year with Bigger Payouts.

  4) Players would then be halved each week depending on where they finish for that Tournament with the Final event of the year being just 25 players.

  5) The final 4 Tournaments would be just 2 Rounds of Hard and Expert Pins.

  6) The winner would be payed the biggest Payout of the year. The difference between 1st and 2nd though must be a bigger margin than what it is now.

  This a great idea Mike and I'm interested in seeing what you can come up with! :)

• mjb1982 said June 30, 2009

  I'm in 100% agreement with B Diddy. 12 of my friends have gotten this game for Wii and we are making our own league setup... I'd have 0 interest in playing the general public in an online league because as a whole I don't trust them to be honest. I'd be much more interested in allowing up to 16 users let's say setup an online league where they can shoot their round and the game keeps track of what they did online.

  Right now we are playing in 15 tournaments, plus 4 playoff tournaments and we're just meeting up online (as long as at least 1 other player golf's with you it's legit) and we're manually keeping scores.  A LOT more work, but it's really the best feature this game has to offer in my opinion if you have 0 interest in playing the masses.

• TheRaiman said June 30, 2009

  I like the idea of a Tour Season online.  Diffidently Pro Tour difficulty and make it last around six week where you do 4 to 6 rounds a week avg.  Please make it single try only.  

  I like the suggestion of the top 100+ in a championship tourney at the end.  My suggestion added to that would be use the Fedex cup style play off for 4 rounds 1st round top 125 then top 100 then top 70 and final round with top 30.  

• JBHuskers said June 30, 2009

  Excellent blog Mike!!!  Here are my two cents:

  •    Are you interested a season structure like this within Live Tournaments?    YES YES YES YES YES!!!!

  •    How long should each Season be?  10 Weeks maybe

  •    What difficulty settings should we use for the Online PGA TOUR Seasons?  If you can do a Pro and Tour Pro, else Tour Pro

  •    What courses would you like to see used during the season?  All of them

• SteelReign said June 30, 2009

  Are you interested a season structure like this within Live Tournaments?  

  -------Definitely!

  •    How long should each Season be?  

  --------I wouldn't go much beyond 8 tournaments.  Let's face it, NCAA Football/Madden/etc, will be out in a couple of months.  With all the new games coming out, the attention span for TW will be short.  Obviously, you continue tourneys for the long-haul TW fans.  But, the first tourney should be relatively short.

  •    What difficulty settings should we use for the Online PGA TOUR Seasons?  I'd make them as hard as possible, but there needs to be a true handicapping system or you'll lose a TON of players after two or three tournaments.  

  -------What point is there to playing if you have no chance to finish in the top 10, 50, 300, etc?

  •    What courses would you like to see used during the season?  

  -----Any and all.

• DlhardUNCFAN said June 30, 2009

  • Are you interested a season structure like this within Live Tournaments?

  • How long should each Season be?

  • What difficulty settings should we use for the Online PGA TOUR Seasons?

  • What courses would you like to see used during the season?

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  Mike,

   This sounds like a good idea.  I think the season should be four rounds of each course.  This would complete the season structure. The settings should be random but keep black tees.  If possible have two of these tournaments.  One for tour mode players and one for default(turbo) players.  May the tourney where you can only play it once.  

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• Wilk5280 said June 30, 2009

  I love the idea of PGA Tour seasons.  I think user created players only on TOUR PRO Difficulty is a must.  You go with those settings and you'll have me hooked for sure.

• JayhawkerGWJ said June 30, 2009

  Private leagues are a must.  We all have groups of friends we like to compete with.  Those private tourneys would sell copies, as other members of the forum I post on would be more likely to play.  

• paidtheumpire@gmail.com said July 01, 2009

  I would love to see the season structure.

  But, my main problem with TW10 is with the leaderboard after each hole. It only shows the top 5 (who are -20 or something crazy). If you had the top 3 as well as a group of 10 players either side of your position it would make it more enjoyable. Right now all i see after each hole is that I'm miles away from the golfing "gods" who score birdies as easily as i hit the ball.

  Thanks.

  Paid The Umpire

• Ulchie519 said July 01, 2009

  As great as all of that sounds,   I really think that tiger woods needs work in other areas right now before we change to many things about the live tournament.

  Yesterday,  I had to try 11 times before finally getting an online match to start.  The constant crashing,   players disconnecting screwing everyone over, etc, makes this game almost not fun to play online at all.  

  While I definitely respect the motivation your team has to continue moving forward and tweaking settings there are some serious bug fixes that need to be addressed.   Do you have any comment or can you provide any insight as to when we might se a patch?

• SMOKE U FOOLS said July 01, 2009

  Mike, I think this is a great idea...Give us Tour Pro Season, Single Try Rounds, and some Extreme ones and you have completely made this game incredible!

• aarrgh17 said July 01, 2009

  I'a be happy with an 8 week season, Tour Pro, SINGLE TRY ONLY and private seasons available to set up.

• barry@blbrown.com said July 02, 2009

  Great information Mike, thanks.  It sounds like the team is continuing to work hard to improve the TW experience and really listening to community feedback.  I follow some of the boards and can see many of the suggestions reflected in what you are proposing.  Again, thanks.

  I would definitely be interested in an online season mode!  Tour Pro for sure, and possibly Pro and/or Amateur.  Maybe 8-12 weeks in length, with one tournament per week (single try!) and perhaps some allowance for folks that cannot play every week(maybe you can only enter X of Y tournaments, or only your best X of Y tournmanents count).

  I also like the concept of handicapped tournaments - it's not much fun starting a tourney and seeing -24 at the top of the leaderboard.  However, I DO NOT like the dynamic difficulty idea.  I like to play TW a certain way... standard Tour Pro.  If for some reason I am forced to play with grids off, gale force winds, etc. I would rather not play as it takes the fun out of it for me.  I would rather see a further subdivision by skill rating.  Perhaps the leaderboards and payouts can be divided into sub-classes (within Tour Pro, at least).  There could be a main leaderboard and then sub-leaderboards by skill rating so the -24's will be on their own leaderboard, per se.  Just a thought.

• Zalf said July 02, 2009

  The online PGA is interesting in theory but if the reason to play it is to "win" the season it is just going to be the daily/weekly tournaments times 30.  Maybe 5 people in the world will have a shot at winning and the rest of us would just watch.  Until you address the competitive situation or change the win conditions.  It really isn't any different from what you have now.  It is just stringing a few weeklies together.

  The handicap thing is horrible as presented.  The skill rating system is subject to major abuse.  Even if it wasn't, tour pro is a completely different competitive game when compared to the other levels.  So you are going to have people playing in the same tournament with Tour Pro difficulty, no green grids, heavy winds against players with boost/spin, putt preview, and no wind.  You haven't been able balance the game within the difficulty levels and now they are going to start crossing them?  Balance within the levels(with swings landing randomly somewhere within the target circle), fix the skill rating system to prevent abuse(by preventing intentional bad rounds from lowering the skill rating), and then think about mixing the levels.

  Payout system is ok like it is or it will be ok the new way.  Nothing really earth shattering here.  The money doesn't mean anything so spending all this time trying to figure out how to give it away doesn't seem all that productive on the surface.

  I love the fact that you are spending so much time working with the game after release, I just wish it was in area that actually leveled the playing field.

• BDUBYAS said July 02, 2009

  OK... there is a major problem with the live tournaments on the 360 that I and many others are experiencing online.  Whenever I quit a tournament or even complete my round and submit my score,  I get taken back to the main menu background screen where the prompt box displays the words "retrieving Details"...And the silouette of Tiger swinging over and over again.  I get froze on the screen and always have to sign out then sign back in or go to my dashboard and reboot the game.  So if your noticing a drop in players playing the tournaments it's because half of my friends list is having this issue.  

    Also ...Why do your stats have to drop everytime you play a online tournament.   This makes everyone were the max stats suit.  I don't think thats right at all.   How do you expect people to keep there 12 attributes..  Theres no way you can mantain a 3 ft to the pin average when your playing tour mode with a 31 cross wind on every other hole..It makes no sense.  The result is everyones golfer is wearing the same outfit.  

  A couple other bugs I've been seeing online are as follows.. When you hit a shot that lands in the cup (like a dunk or swish shot) , 80% of the time the ball shoots out and goes strangly rolling out of bounds.  It's happened to me and many others.  The ball will land in the hole then just magically start rolling through rough all the way till it goes out of bounds.

     Also When some one makes there approach shot in the cup the game and cameras will kinda freeze up and the ball almost gets stuck just kinda bouncing around in the hole and you have to sign out and go to your dash board resulting in a loss a dnf and a large amount of your rank points.  Everyone knows this, so it turns into a waitng game to see who will reboot first.

    Last year it was the 2 inch glitch.  That doesn't happen anymore but the new glitch that I beleive is a by product of the 2inch glitch happens way to often. this is were your ball is backspinning (rolling right tward the cup) and then once it gets to the very edge of the cup it comes to a complete stop like it hit a brick wall. It never hits the pin never makes a sound just stops dead in its path right on the lip anywhere from 2 to 5 inches away.  I was in a best ball game yesterday and we were 1 shot down.  The 17th was a par 3... me and my partner both had this occur were we hit the perfect shot and the ball just stopped on the lip of the cup.  We lost when it should of been a tie.

      I just think there are some minor bugs with the hole and the pin that could be easily looked into.  Especially in simo stroke.  where alot of times  you hit a pin that you cant see.  And it also seems like once one player hits a pin or cup then the next player cant make the shot. the ball won't go in.  The 2nd player can hit the pin though the ball just wont stay down.  But once the 2nd player hits the pin after the first player has, then it makes it possible for a third or fourth to make the shot.  I'm not sure if it's the host who hits the pin first   or how it works but there are some definate bugs with the pin that have affected the result of many games I've been in..It truly has me stumped.  

   Last I would like to ask why we still get so punished in rank points  when the ea server boots us or when someone looses connection.  The leaderboard online for tiger woods pga tour has never reflected the best players.  only the people who play themselves or only play against level ones.  It can takes weeks to get your rank were you would like it and all the sudden just because the sever boots you you loose 30% of you points.  That will take your rank from like 10th all the way to say 110th.  It's not fair and it's been the same for years now. The closest it was to a legitimate leaderbord was in 2006.  There were still cheaters but thats a given..  And what happened to not loosing points when your partner disconnects.  I was told in person to my face at the Champions of gaming tournament that This would be a thing of the past.  But yesterday a thunder storm cut my partners connection and I went from 14th in the world to 145th.   Why does this still happen?  And why can you not get in the beginers lobby after a certain skill level is obtained but you can custom search and jump into there games all you want.  

    Thanks for taking the time to read this.   And thanks for charging us money for the #1 requested addition to this years game by all the fans ...Fantasy courses!    Why can't you guys fix the online rank system.  Why can you kick people from "RANKED" games?   So a skill level 20 player doesn't have to play anyone that has a chance at beating him as long as he hosts evertime.  Yet he'll still be able to increase his rank and skill level by playing noobies all day.  NOT FAIR.  This is competetive online gaming is it not!?   does Tiger Woods say ..."Oh man Phil Michelson is playing in this Tourney , he could beat me...I'm not playing in that one!"  

      Alll the above is all that is wrong with A very well made game.  Like I've said before I think this is the best Tiger yet!  It just still has some of the same issues it's had for 5 years now!

  Last I wanted to mention that everyone doesn't get the same wind in online games .  So when your playing online in gale force your opponent could have a 30 helping wind when you get a 30 wind in the face. causing a 3 shot swing causing you to lose the match.  It happens in almost every single game i'm in. No matter the wind settings me and partner have different winds a so does the other team.  I know the game wasn't designed that way..So again It's just another bug that has been needing a fix since last years version.    

  And what ever happened to being able to have million dolloar four ball games.  That was so much fun...It would allow for more earnings to be circulated and you wouldn't have newbys gambling away there only 5000 dollars on there first game and then being unable to join any more games that have a wager.  It really makes no sense.  every one should get started with like 5 million instead of 5000.

  PLEASE GIVE US A PATCH !!!!!!!!!!   any questions contact me through gamertag BDUBYAS or email bdubyas@yahoo.com

• mjb1982 said July 03, 2009

  Again if you do the following I know more people will purchase this game and use it on a more year round basis rather than wait for Madden, NCAA etc to come out

  #1 Allow transfer of golfers from TW 10 to TW 11 (when the time comes via SD card etc)

  #2 Allow groups of friends to create an online league. It doesn't even need to be elaborate. Right now, many of my friends and I make our own tournament schedule (reg tourneys 5 days 2 rounds, majors 10 days 4rounds) This way real life doesn't cost you opportunities to compete

  #3 Keep stats in the league setup

  #4 Have a menu where all golfers ratings/tunings are viewable by the league to avoid any possible cheaters (not as big a deal with friends playing but if you're going to expand this you have to assume people all over will join leagues)

  You do that, and make it so that even if I have to play my league 18 holes by myself that my score is locked in somehow.

  That will make this game and every version after it worth the penny every single time. I may be in the minority but I get 0 out of playing somebody on the other side of the country who has figured out cheat codes, or max'd their golfer or anything like it... I enjoy playing people I know and compete with.

• Unmutual said July 05, 2009

  I really don't like the sounds of changing settings to match your skill level. I honestly think it should be a level playing field for all. I've no problem of being locked out of amateur tournaments either. I think that part is fine.

  I'm really liking the other ideas though. The payout system sounds great and I'd love a PGA Tour.

  One other request.....I'd really like there to be more single submission tournaments. If I mess up...I mess up. I don't think i should be allowed to keep trying until I get there. I think it skews the scores as well and creates more of a bottleneck towards the top of the leaderboard as people keep trying for that perfect round.

  Also......how about team or clan support? Links had this back on the old xbox. Your team could enter tournaments and you could view the leaderboards on XSN sports. I really miss this aspect to the game. On that note.....would it be possible to make the tournament leaderboards viewable online?

• JezII said July 06, 2009

  One of the best online golf systems I have played is the old Links LS ladder system. You played in your own small group with the top, i think, 5 go up the ladder and the bottom 5 go down. This ment very quickly you were competing with players of your own ability and as your game improved you had the added challange of trying to move up the ladder.

• BDUBYAS said July 08, 2009

  does any1 know if the new voting for dlc fantasy courses is pertaining to this yers version?   Will there be more dlc courses available this year 4 download?

• TJ69 said July 20, 2009

  i would like to see an online season mode with tourneys but add the handicap things because some people have lifes(GOOD) and are not as good as people without lifes(TO GOOD)

  :)(:

• BDUBYAS said July 21, 2009

  We cant even play in tournaments were I can use my spin and power.  My rating is almost 3000.  The only ones I can play are tour mode , extreme , and some silly power capped tourney that is also a single try.  The ones were I can spin and power up on... have been the pro character tourneys were you use the real pros. Everyone online is having the same issue... so all they do is go shoot like a +26 or some horrible round so that there rating drops and there aloud to play in other tournaments.  I went and tried it today and just shot limited on every hole. I shot a +126.  I then checked my rating and to my suprise it actually went up 100 points.  So the rating system is definately messed up and doesn't work right anyways, sorry.  I understand that people like the power cap and the single try, thats fine those are fun.  But why are we forced to play tour mode...  Most of the players online play default which is now reffered to as "AMATEUR MODE". I guess you guys did that to make all the tour mode forum geeks happy.  Which is also fine... I understand.  And there is an obvious seperation between the two player types.  I meen tour mode guys play tour mode and default guys play default.  There are some like myself who enjoy both, but I would rather play default. I guess all I'm getting at is that there should be a daily tournament in "amatuer mode" so that evryone can play in it and all the best "amateur" players have a tournament to compete in without worrying about dropping there rating. I meen why am I aloud to play in a Semi-Pro tourney but not aloud to play in a PRO tourney. players are basically sacrificing a tour mode tournament (that they most likely don't care about anyway)just to play in a default tourney.  

      And I gotta mention the "one wind thing".   It's fine... everyone knows that a 1 wind is sometimes a 1 wind and sometimes it's a zero wind, and it usually plays like a cup if its blowing right or left.  So basically you can take dead aim at the pin and usually its going in the cup if you can hit it straight.  It's fine for online play But not for the tourneys. Everyone on the 360 can tell the difference between a 1 wind and a zero wind simply by looking at the trees.  But when your getting waves of "one wind not playing" on every hole of a tournament, avid players are going to shoot rediculous scores. espescially if they can restart.  Someone could shoot a really good score and have the lead all day and then in the wee hours of the night when you get those zero winds, any old joe shmo that knows what he's doing could easily come destroy there score with very little effort.  Prime example>> someone had a great score on the vj singh tourney it was up all day. and I know that they had some breezy winds.  I went to play it at about 2am and every hole was 1 wind not playing (zero wind). I beat his score by two shots on my 1rst try.  When I woke up the next morning my score had been beaten by 2.  Put it this way .. I holed out 6 shots from the fairway with vj and I never played with him before. Thats how easy it is for us.  So the wind should never be a one in a tournament unless its one wind for everyone all day.  Because now people wont even play the tournaments until late becuase they are waiting on one winds.  It's not fair to some one who shoots a good round with wind.  

  Ok almost done...I posted something about not being able to finish, submit , or restart a round on the tournaments with out going to my dash board everytime because the "retrieving details" loading box freezes evertime.  Well it still happens and I had to buy another account just to play in the tournaments.  And There are many many others who have the same issue and as a result have just given up on the live tournaments. This will also effect there entrys in contests.

  One final issue that is basically the biggest issue since 07.  Please design the next game so that you can play and compete with a microsoft or ps3 standard controller. Everyone that plays online ps3 or x box 360 uses an after market controller.  I dont care who gets on here and says they play with a y axis or a ms controller.  There may be a few who do but believe me, 99% of the players all use a gamestop joytech or madcatz for the 360 and a hori turbo for the ps3.  especially if you want to compete in tour mode.  Making the sweet spot more sensitive will do nothing but push the sales of junk controllers, and turn away new comers.  TW08 and TW06 were the closest to perfection in this department.  Even then there was an advantage with an after market controller.  People online usually play on calm wind were you usually get a couple zero winds per 9 holes and if you can't hit it perfectly straight or should I say if your using a standard controller, these are holes your gonna lose on. It's really not fair to the newbs.

    Thanks for Reading and hopefully Listening- bdubyas@yahoo.com

• branny said July 23, 2009

  i agree with all of the additions to the online tournaments, except for the fact that in the handicapped tournaments it changes my putting style. i am one of the people that can shoot -80 or -90, and i understand that it makes it more balanced, but it also changes the entire way that i have to putt. im fine with no spin or putt preview and all of that but the putting choice is something that should still be up to us.